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SPOILER ALERT: This story incorporates spoilers from Episode 6 of “The Boys” Season 4, currently streaming on Amazon’s Prime Video.

This week on “The Boys”: Homelander (Antony Starr), Sage (Susan Heyward) and VP-elect Victoria Neuman (Claudia Doumit) rally some Federalist Society one-percenters to fall consistent with their plan to complete supe supremacist domination and to create internment camps for any detractors — and by some means that was not the craziest part of the episode.

First up, there was the enormous reveal that Jeffrey Dean Morgan’s character CIA agent Joe Kessler has been a hallucination of Butcher’s (Karl City) this entire time. You can learn more about that right here.

Second, Hughie (Jack Quaid) goes undercover as the supe Webweaver on the extremely elite alt-right party hosted by billionaire supe Tek Knight (Derek Wilson) to debate Homelander’s plan — and finally ends up being Tek Knight and Ashley’s (Colby Minifie) plaything down in Tek Knight’s intercourse dungeon, all of the whereas pretending he’s completely positive and might deal with all this simply after the loss of life of his father Hugh Sr. (Simon Pegg).

“It was one of the most vitally difficult and one in every one of my favourite issues that I’ve gotten to do in this loopy world of a present,” Minifie instructed Selection. “There was a whole lot of prep for that. There were like 4 fittings for that balloon of an outfit, which was designed by Michael Brown, and I cherished being in that. However I actually cherished how the writers and Kripke discovered this new door for Ashley to discover — how she launched her stress, and the way all shit flows down. She receives all these items from Homelander, after which simply makes use of it in a brand new means and will get off on it.”

Third, Firecracker (Valorie Curry) proves her timeless fealty to Homelander by revealing she’s been taking prescription remedy that causes her to lactate (and enlarges her coronary heart), giving Homelander the prospect truly to breastfeed from her. Which makes Homelander, the mommy-issue-addled chief of the Seven, very blissful.

“I really like how that scene performed a lot, as a result of us each got here to it with this utter vulnerability and filled with sincerity — which just makes it a lot fucking weirder,” Curry mentioned. “However with Firecracker, regardless of her simple madness and the issues that she spews, she has this uncanny means to know what individuals want, whether or not it’s in a crowd or it’s one on one. And even Homelander, she will be able to see the human inside that shell, and she will be able to see what that human wants, even when it seems to be like a weird fetish on the skin. And she or he is prepared to offer him that additionally, as a result of which she is not afraid of him — she must be. However, she really believes her imaginative and prescient of who he is, so she appears like she has no motive to be afraid of him, and makes herself so susceptible to his vulnerability. It’s so intimate.”

Curry mentioned a lot of prep that went into that scene from “The Boys’” costume division “simply to construct the structure to make it possible” to depict Firecracker breastfeeding Homelander, including: “The supersuit workforce ought to simply patent the entire state of affairs there.”

See under for Selection‘s Q&A with “The Boys” showrunner Eric Kripke delves deeper into the Firecracker breastfeeding scene, Tek Knight’s intercourse dungeon and Hughie’s torturous time spent pretending to be Webweaver.

Let’s begin with the Tek Knight intercourse dungeon half. The place did the concept come for it? And why convey Hughie into this case now — kicking him when he’s down by having him sexually assaulted by his childhood hero after his dad simply died?

Properly, that’s a darkish means to have a look at it! We see it as hilarious. Clearly, Tek Knight is our model of Batman, and we wished to actually mess around with that trope: Batman’s fascist underpinnings as an extremely rich dude who hunts poor individuals, after whose income from incarceration. In order that was one. Tek Knight was already set as much as to be a freak, so we had been sort of already midway there. Then the notion came up here of, he ought to have a Batcave — however let’s be trustworthy, the Batcave can be an intercourse dungeon. Like, even the true Batcave is simply this aspect of being an intercourse dungeon. It’s actually darkish, and there’s rubber fits all over the place. It’s not that much of a push as to add a pair of dildos after which a bizarre urinal that turns right into a face mask.

And within the comics, there’s an incredible storyline where Hughie goes undercover disguised as a superhero. That was a narrative that Jack had at all times asked us to do. So apart from that, at all times watch out what you ask the writers for. Then we lastly had this Webweaver character and the concept of Spider-Man happening to be kink tickled within the Batcave is simply too good to cross up. I’m sorry, I just couldn’t go away that on the desk.

Were there any items of that scene, both in writing or if you bought to film it, that Amazon mentioned “No, that’s too far”?

No, that was all just about as scripted. We had our poor writers’ assistant do an extended checklist of actual kinks, as a result of which we had been searching for some. And I bear in mind studying down the checklist and I’m like, “What’s cake farting?” After which they defined to me, and it’s an actual factor — but don’t look it up. I just mentioned, that’s unimaginable, we’ve got to do this.

After which it appeared prefer it was an actual pure tie-in to convey Ashley into it, as a result of she does have dom/sub tendencies. I really like that it’s just such an ideal setup that he doesn’t know his personal protected phrase. It’s similar to a phenomenal comedy setup that he’s looking for it the entire time.

Was the protected phrase at all times going to be “Zendaya” — with the trace that Tek Knight says it’s what Webweaver “loves probably the most” — as a nod to Tom Holland’s Spider-Man? Or are you employed by way of another potential protected phrase concepts??

No, it was Anslem Richardson, who’s the good author of the episode — he simply put that within the first draft. I don’t assume we ever mentioned it, and he simply threw in that his protected phrase was “Zendaya,” and I simply laughed my ass off about that.

It’s the factor Spider-Man loves the most!

Yeah! It’s the factor Spider-Man loves the most.

After going through all that, Hughie finally breaks down into tears with Annie on the finish of the episode as soon as they’re back at headquarters. Will we see extra fallout from that within the ultimate episodes? As a result of his having been through many a lot already together with his dad’s loss of life, after which that sex-dungeon trauma occurred.

His story on this explicit episode is the sort of denial and compartmentalization a whole lot of us have after we’re coping with the loss of life of a cherished one. And in the event you look all through the episode, he’s at all times simply saying, “I’m positive, I’m positive, I’m completely positive. I’m positive.” Which is what lots of people do earlier than you lastly can kind of open the door to the ache you’re feeling. And I believe that’s part of therapeutic. So I believe he’s going to go on and actually attempt to take up and be taught what his dad and his mom taught him about forgiveness, and actually attempt to take that into the season. As a result he actually does probably have the most mature and human arc out of all of the characters this season.

Where did the concept for Firecracker breastfeeding Homelander come from? We all know his milk fetish, we all know his mommy fetish. However, the selection really does take it to this stage on display screen and get Antony Starr and Valorie Curry snug with that…

No, in fact, Ant and Val had been like, “Let’s do it!” I believe I bear in mind telling Val on Day 1 of seeing her in Toronto, “Simply so we’re clear, Firecracker goes to be breastfeeding him.” And I imagine her response was one thing to the impact of like, “Properly, in fact she is.” If you take that character and the way slavishly devoted she is to Homelander, and the way she would do something for him — as she’s made abundantly clear by saying it like seven occasions in a row to him — that gives him the factor he desires most on the earth turns into logical, in a bananas type of means.

As we had been saying in the room, as a result of her additionally jockeying to get in a greater place as a method to promote out Sage, they’re now competing for Homelander’s consideration. So the dialogue in the room got here up that Sage is nice at what individuals would possibly want intellectually, however Firecracker is actually wonderful at what individuals want emotionally. And we mentioned, “Properly, what’s the factor Homelander wants most on earth that nobody else could give them?” And it’s a hop, skip and a bounce to, “Properly, he would want a girl who’s truly prepared to let him breastfeed.” And I bear in mind distinctly, Ellie Monahan within the room mentioned, “If we’re doing that, that’s the craziest factor we’ve ever accomplished.” And it’s shut, man.

That scene, to begin with, getting the milk squirted into his face, and Ant’s shock and complete delight is such a phenomenal second. However another sane present would minimize away at that time. And by the way in which, not that sane — however that’s if you minimize away, you already know what’s going to occur.

The truth that we minimize to the precise breastfeeding scene makes me cowl my mouth every time. It’s just so beautiful, and wow. Simply what it means to the characters — the actors’ balls in pulling that off. I imply, it’s simply my chef’s kiss to all of them.

And the drugs that do that solely enlarge her coronary heart slightly!

Just a tiny little bit.

This interview has been edited and condensed.